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<message nick="elfguy536" time="02:53:56.33+01:00">hello, i've been have troubles getting request:get-parameter() to work</message>
<message nick="elfguy536" time="02:54:49.663+01:00">i keep getting an error that it won't bind to a java object</message>
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<message nick="mib_aobxoj" time="08:20:28.362+01:00">can't reproduce here (but I had to strip the schema definition)</message>
<message nick="mib_aobxoj" time="08:21:16.337+01:00">If I remember well; it should have been fixed (wrong children computation of something like that...)</message>
<message nick="perig_" time="08:24:14.97+01:00">:-)</message>
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<message nick="paulo" time="09:52:51.04+01:00">[object Object]</message>
<message nick="paulo" time="09:53:01.164+01:00">[object Object]</message>
<message nick="perig" time="09:54:55.559+01:00">.</message>
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<message nick="perig" time="10:09:09.529+01:00">Mmmh... I get 2 XQTS regressions compared to last week (on persistent nodes)</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:10:10.892+01:00">Yes, I know</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:10:31.761+01:00">probably another consequence of the comment or cdata fixes</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:10:46.491+01:00">but I could not find out which tests differ</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:12:03.585+01:00">ah yes, that will probably return 2</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:12:24.894+01:00">returns 2 whereas the 2 nodes should (probably ?) be coalesced</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:13:13.33+01:00">indeed, so we need to extend the rule for text node followed by text node to include cdata nodes</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:14:05.12+01:00">but I will release 1.2.1 now anyway</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:17:13.616+01:00">no problem</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:18:08.24+01:00">this is the other one : $input-context/comment() except $input-context/comment() </message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:18:54.984+01:00">expects an empty sequence, returns 3 comment nodes</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:20:22.162+01:00">possibly due to the use of ExtArrayNodeSet ?</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="10:20:49.009+01:00">not sure. we have quite a few failures in the except section</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:21:50.983+01:00">yes. I find very suprising we don't get more reports :-)</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:22:29.796+01:00">but, well, this is possibly due to the fact that the XQTS uses in-memory nodes</message>
<message nick="ljo" time="10:39:20.579+01:00">.</message>
<message nick="perig" time="10:56:25.07+01:00">yeah : not regression in except when operating on in-memory nodes</message>
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<message nick="gev" time="17:06:11.498+01:00">hi!</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:06:32.907+01:00">I have a small idea!</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:08:45.357+01:00">Add to RESTserver http header "Content-Encoding = gzip" for ziped (gziped) binary resources</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:10:58.748+01:00">and add charset to header "Content-type" for binary resources too, like for xml</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:11:37.892+01:00">for example for binary text, script and other</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:12:00.542+01:00">what do you think?</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:12:29.231+01:00">what about other servlets, not only REST?</message>
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<message nick="gev" time="17:23:19.114+01:00">.</message>
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<message nick="gev" time="17:33:05.691+01:00">hi perig!</message>
<message nick="perig" time="17:35:24.379+01:00">hi Gev</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:37:05.186+01:00">wolf?</message>
<message nick="gev" time="17:37:13.287+01:00">are you here?</message>
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<message nick="DiZzZz" time="18:24:08.981+01:00">hi folks</message>
<message nick="perig" time="18:24:47.313+01:00">hi</message>
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<message nick="DiZzZz" time="19:07:31.155+01:00">nice to see 1.2.1 out there</message>
<message nick="perig" time="19:11:23.511+01:00">yeah, I hope users will switch to it soon</message>
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<message nick="DiZzZz" time="19:19:49.328+01:00">let's focus on 1.3.0 .....</message>
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-<message nick="wolf77" time="21:22:40.128+01:00">
can anybody download
<a href="http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/exist/eXist-1.2.1-rev7764.war">http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/exist/eXist-1.2.1-rev7764.war</a>
?
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<message nick="wolf77" time="21:23:04.572+01:00">for me, the download never starts</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="21:24:46.901+01:00">same problem for the cocoon build</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="21:29:47.289+01:00">mmh, ok, it's just a question of captial vs. small 'x' in eXist</message>
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<message nick="adi112358" time="21:36:09.067+01:00">what xquery engine is existdb using?</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="21:37:10.08+01:00">it has its own</message>
<message nick="perig" time="21:37:10.39+01:00">it's own engine :-)</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:38:48.974+01:00">nice</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:43:14.525+01:00">I'm looking at the javadocs right now</message>
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<message nick="adi112358" time="21:52:31.481+01:00">how is it possible to execute XQueries outside of the database itself?</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:52:45.46+01:00">or is it?</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:53:26.686+01:00">example: input.xml query.xq; apply query.xq to input.xml and output to o.xml</message>
<message nick="perig" time="21:53:49.668+01:00">use doc()</message>
<message nick="perig" time="21:54:25.356+01:00">then serialize to o.xml</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:54:25.706+01:00">there is already an example of this, but it requires a running database</message>
<message nick="perig" time="21:54:46.445+01:00">sure : eXis is a DB</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:55:04.049+01:00">that is, it requires the XPathQueryService service of the DB</message>
<message nick="adi112358" time="21:55:38.606+01:00">I was wondering if it's possible to do it outside of a running DB, though, using the java libraries of eXist</message>
<message nick="perig" time="21:57:02.319+01:00">probably not. eXist hasn't been designed like that...</message>
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<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:23:42.422+01:00">wolf77: download works. Just a note I'm following all IRC messages ...</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:24:13.194+01:00">Very good. Thanks.</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:24:53.709+01:00">and choosing what to buy since home PC is not up for development any more.</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:25:25.182+01:00">Oh, did it break?</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:26:03.594+01:00">512 MB of RAM ... you guess what M. OS than do.</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:26:47.754+01:00">Yeah, with 512M you can't use more than VI for development ;-)</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:26:55.975+01:00">:-)</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:27:20.649+01:00">BTW I have to demonstrate eXist power next week. While XQuery will be fine ...</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:28:19.859+01:00">what would you suggest to use for e.g. comparing XML descriptors (35 integer values for every image)?</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:28:54.366+01:00">I mean structure is like <desc>n1 n2 n3 ... n35</desc> and I guess this will be too slow ...</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:29:16.126+01:00">for 16000 images (imagine you have to compare one descriptor to all others in the ...</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:29:46.437+01:00">database). I think I'll go for Java application on the server for that while ...</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:29:58.453+01:00">using XQuery only for textual attributes etc.</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:30:01.197+01:00">do you just need to compare for equality or substring matches?</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:30:23.137+01:00">or compare all values with all others?</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:31:08.809+01:00">Unfortunately not - extract, yes, all values, and then sumarize absolute differences etc.</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:31:40.281+01:00">E.g. this is mean error or in image terms - similarity measure.</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:33:11.836+01:00">Ok, I see. In that case, XQuery is probably too slow indeed.</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:33:33.555+01:00">OK, I've got the big picture now. Fortunately these descriptors can be saved by ...</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:33:36.99+01:00">what could be done is to create a specialized index</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:34:07.121+01:00">just like the spatial index, which provides the required functionality.</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:34:23.763+01:00">some existing software in binary form (e.g. 35 bytes) so I can probably script in shell creation ...</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:35:07.393+01:00">of such file for every image. It will be much faster (no XML processing) but ...</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:35:28.111+01:00">yes, looking forward for specialized indexes in the future.</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:37:19.542+01:00">Thanks, I have to fill last GSoC form - looks like they haven't change one they talk about for this year so I'll send what they claim.</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:37:44.406+01:00">Ok, fine. I'll be off to bed soon.</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:38:31.76+01:00">Me too - only if Star Trek episode starts sooner than I turn PC off :-).</message>
<message nick="sergrinc" time="22:38:34.224+01:00">Good night.</message>
<message nick="wolf77" time="22:38:48.924+01:00">Night</message>
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